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EPISODES
Kids do NOT learn languages faster than adults. That's a MYTH - Dr. Karen Lichtman
There's this myth that kids learn faster than adults. Research shows it's not true; adults are actually better language learners - Dr. Karen Lichtman.
Karen’s research at Binghamton University focuses on instructed second language acquisition, including age differences in language learning and implicit vs. explicit language teaching.
In this episode, we dive into:
the bad teaching that exists and how to address it
the myth of children learning faster than adults
why adults make better language learners
why easier materials is almost always better
designing a beginner course from scratch
balancing implicit & explicit teaching
addressing skeptical teachers
the role of TPRS in language learning (Teaching Proficiency through Reading and Storytelling)
You need to master the art of self-reinvention - Jessica Dias
"If it doesn't go according to plan, what is the worst thing that could happen that is the minimum I can be satisfied with?"
We sit down with entrepreneur Jessica Dias to discuss growing a business.
Jessica is an English teacher and founder of Jessy Academy — an online school that helps Brazilian learners break free from the intermediate plateau and develop real communication skills in English.
In this episode, Jessica discusses:
Overcoming Failure and Setting Realistic Goals
The Genesis of the Itch: From School to Side Hustle
Turning Passion into a Full-Time Business
Embracing Change and Growth
Building a Sustainable Business Model
Challenges of Running a Business
Balancing Client Work and Business Operations
Delegation and Use of AI Tools
Scaling While Maintaining Quality
Advice for Handling Business Slumps
Is a TRULY task-based curriculum possible? - Claudia Fernandez
From beginner to intermediate in 9 months: yes, it's possible and Claudia Fernandez tells us how.
Claudia runs her Spanish program at the University of Illinois-Chicago using a task-based curriculum. One result was bringing fifteen A1 students to intermediate over 9 months. She shares her story and how others can do the same.
In this episode, we dive into:
Implementing task-based language teaching from scratch
Why there is still pushback against TBLT
Mindset shifts every institution needs
Aligning tasks with assessments
Claudia’s experience of helping students go from absolute beginner to intermediate in 9 months
Effective task design
How learners acquire grammar through input-based approaches
Instruction habits that get in the way of learning
How to create needs analyses in task-based learning
Practice is the Price: What Teaching Taught us about Building a Business
*This launches the beginning of a new series of our show: education entrepreneurship.
In this episode, we introduce the series and discuss what it takes to start and run your own business. Specifically, we explore the transition from traditional teaching roles to entrepreneurial ventures.
We chat about:
Why waiting until you're uncomfortable might be too late to start your business
The real difference between commitment and consistency and why one matters more
How teachers can build businesses without a one-size-fits-all model
What Andrew's beach business (and Bob the Book) taught him about resourcefulness, scrappiness, and getting started
Why belief in yourself is the most underrated strategy in entrepreneurship
Who this series is for and who it’s not for
The Big BEASTS of English Grammar: What we Need to UNLEARN - Graham Burton
Does the grammar that is normally taught match the evidence corpus linguistics shows? Dr. Graham Burton helps us dissect the big beasts of English grammar.
In this episode, Graham discusses:
Corpus Linguistics in Language Teaching
Benefits of Corpus for Learners
The Big Beasts of English Grammar
Example-Driven Grammar Teaching
What Teachers Should Unlearn about Grammar
Challenges in Teaching Grammar
Prototypical vs. Natural Grammar Usage
Misconceptions in Grammar Teaching
The Evolution of Grammar Teaching
What the CELTA Should Do to "Re-do" Grammar
The History of Pedagogical Grammar
Why the word "grammar" was negative (and "structure" was used instead)
"Don't teach AT the students. Teach OFF them" - Scott Thornbury
"Don't teach at the students. Teach off them." Scott Thornbury becomes our first repeat guest and helps us dissect this and more.
Scott Thornbury is a teacher, teacher trainer, and award-winning author in English language education.
He co-authored Teaching Unplugged (2009) and Dogme in Practice (2025), both with Luke Meddings. His latest book is called Scott Thornbury's 66 Essentials of Lesson Design.
In our chat, Scott delves into:
tensions between planning & spontaneity
what an effective lesson design process looks like
if the communicative approach can be rehabilitated
shifting from surface-level communication to meaningful interaction
adapting teacher training and institutional expectations
the role of technology in education
Learner autonomy is driven by the TEACHER, not the learner - Dr. David Little
Learner autonomy is something that happens INSIDE the classroom, not out of it. Teachers can't sit back and wait for their students to become autonomous.
This is part of what the esteemed Dr. David Little shared with us in our conversation.
In this episode, David discusses:
Understanding Language Learner Autonomy
Defining Autonomy in Language Learning
Pedagogical Models for Autonomy
Autonomy in Diverse Educational Contexts
Challenges and Collaborative Solutions for Teachers
Language Learner Autonomy and Writing
Developing Reflective Dialogue in Classrooms
Practical Advice for Fostering Learner Autonomy
Native English isn’t Relevant to the Majority of English Users - Jennifer Jenkins
"It's such social injustice to expect people to use English like native English speakers, whichever country they're in."
We dive into this and English as a Lingua Franca (ELF) with Jennifer Jenkins.
Jennifer Jenkins is a British linguist and academic. She was Chair Professor of Global Englishes at the University of Southampton until her retirement in 2019 and is a leading figure in the study of English as a Lingua Franca (ELF),
In this episode, Jennifer tackles:
what English as a Lingua Franca (ELF) is
native speakers vs local speakers
why she was shunned from many rooms for her views
the cultural and linguistic bias in language testing
how tests are not predictive of academic success
the myth that ELF lowers English standards
the role of adjusting language rather than mimicking it
having a pioneer mindset even when people dismiss you
how international universities have hypocritical linguistic standards
the future of English as a global language
Native Teachers Can’t Fix Pronunciation - John Levis
Learners can think a native teacher is a vaccine against poor pronunciation. Equally, native teachers can be misinformed in thinking that students should just follow them.
We dive into pronunciation, intelligibility, and teacher effects on learner performance with the great John Levis.
In our conversation, John talks about:
accent vs pronunciation
the nativeness principle vs the intelligibility principle
how he coined "the intelligibility principle"
high and low value features of pronunciation
why some vowel sounds don't matter
native and non-native teacher effects on learner performance
learners viewing native speakers as a vaccine for poor pronunciation
some native teachers believing learners should just follow them
getting "caught" with accent
Stop Apologizing for Being Multilingual - Dr. Angelica Galante
Native speaker or non-native speaker? Monolingual or plurilingual? Why do we have a binary bias in modern society?
These are some of the questions we tackled with Dr. Angelica Galante.
n our conversation, Dr. Galante talks about:
Linguistic and Cultural Discrimination
Strategies to Combat Prejudice in Education
Plurilingual and Pluricultural Competence
Navigating Binary Bias in Language Discussions
Exploring Common Ground in Controversial Topics
The Role of Language in Identity and Mental Health
Practical Applications of Plurilingualism in Education
Balancing Plurilingualism and Language Acquisition
Challenges and Facilitators of Plurilingualism
A PLAN is not a STRATEGY: The 7 Cs of Teacherpreneur Success
Why do some teachers thrive as entrepreneurs while others struggle? We dissect this question.
Many teachers want to earn more, teach online, and gain more clients - but struggle to implement a sustainable strategy. We go over seven "Cs" to help.
In this episode, we dive into the "seven Cs of success for teacher entrepreneurship" and discuss:
confidence as a skill rather than a feeling
getting granular on goals
strategizing goal achievement at both the macro and the micro
reflecting on why having a business is (or isn't) a priority
how consistency compounds over time
why getting more clients is nearly impossible if you have nothing to sell
normalizing struggle and self doubt
first steps to starting your business in 2025
We should AIM to give more STATUS to being a teacher - Audrey Rousse-Malpat
If you use vocabulary and grammar tests, you don't teach communicatively. Audrey Rousse-Malpat tells us why.
Audrey Rousse-Malpat is an assistant professor in second language acquisition at the University of Groningen in the Netherlands
In our conversation, Audrey talks about:
thinking like a scientist
schools as factories
AIM (Accelerative Integrated Method) and how it works
feeling like the Marry Poppins of error correction
structure-based teaching vs Dynamic usage
why teachers need to relinquish control
what went wrong with the communicative approach
tips for implementing AIM
multilingual approaches in higher education
Burnout and stress is TOO LATE for teacher wellbeing - Sarah Mercer
Education is designed around focusing on the learner first and the teacher as a medium to support the learner. Sarah Mercer tells us why this leads to unhealthy teachers.
Sarah Mercer is a Professor of foreign language teaching at the University of Graz, Austria.
In this episode, Sarah expounds on:
why connecting with learners is fundamental
cell phone addiction and what we CAN'T do about it
re-framing what "student-led" means
defining "engagement" and pedagogical caring
students faking engagement out of respect for their teacher
burnout and stress are the result of the systemic element of teacher well-being
The Communicative Approach is a DISASTER - Dr. Enrica Piccardo
ELT is full of disasters, including the destruction of the communicative approach. In this episode, Dr. Enrica Piccardo tells us why.
Dr. Piccardo is a Professor of Applied Linguistics and Language Education at the Ontario Institute for Studies in Education, University of Toronto. Her research spans language teaching approaches/curricula, multi/plurilingualism, creativity and complexity in language education.
In this episode, Dr. Piccardo discusses:
leveraging the messiness of learning
how Headway destroyed the communicative approach
multiple disasters in ELT: the separation of languages, the native speaker model, organization curriculum around grammar, and others
how we're still teaching in a grammatical way because it's easier
what mediation is, its role in learning, and its 3 types
updating the CEFR to include mediation
the link between mediation and plurilingualism
the action-oriented approach and its benefits
why teachers need to delegate learning
Teachers have TWO options: Earn more or leave ELT
What do toad venom, the 5 stages of grief, and precarity all have in common? Andrew, Leo, and Mike explain.
In this episode, we discuss strategies to earn more by creating your own offer. Specifically, we dive into:
the 5 stages of grief pertaining to precarity
two paths teachers have: stay in ELT or move on
why earning more money is a requisite to stay in the industry
how to create a compelling offer that will actually sell
why focusing on lesson frequency is restricting
not creating solutions to problems no one cares about
toad venom and how you can apply it to your teaching business
ELT has the WRONG input: Learners can't understand REAL people - Sheila Thorn
ELT provides the wrong input: language as it should be spoken not as it is spoken. This is wrong and Sheila Thorn gives us another way. Sheila is a renowned teacher, trainer, and materials writer. She also founded The Listening Business in 1998.
In this episode, Sheila discusses:
ELT having the wrong input
coursebooks as impoverished language
learners being scared of real language
how teacher training fails teachers as much as coursebooks fail students
the 5 listening goals every learner should have
a 3-pronged approach to teaching listening
the problem she is trying to solve in ELT
Grammar is in the BRAIN, not on a piece of paper - Tania Ionin & Silvina Montrul
Grammar instruction or grammar learning? We dive into this with today's guests, Silvina Montrul and Tania Ionin.
In this episode, they discuss:
grammatical knowledge in the context of language acquisition
what intervention research is
why we expect too much of adult learners
how instruction contributes or doesn't contribute to grammar acquisition
efficacious conditions for grammar instruction
how educators can influence the learning of grammar
why studying monolinguals helps to understand L2 acquisition
literate vs illiterate native speakers for a study on grammatical knowledge
We CANNOT and DO NOT Control What Students Learn - Bill VanPatten
So many teachers focus on teaching when they should focus on something else. In this episode, we dive into this with the great Bill VanPatten. Bill VanPatten is an award-winning scholar and teacher with an international reputation in the fields of second language acquisition and second language teaching.
We chat with Bill about why:
the majority of teaching is not in accordance with SLA research
Krashen was right
Krashen's theories are not used in language education
teachers need to get rid of the "Atlas Complex"
most people don't understand what a communicative classroom means
grammar rules are not psychologically real
many researchers don't want to talk to teachers
understanding how non-college educated L1 speakers process language shows explicit instruction's ineffectiveness
if learners can do your assignments using AI, the assignment is flawed
The traditional pronunciation model EXCLUDES virtually every teacher - Robin Walker & Gemma Archer
So many teachers feel they can't teach pronunciation if their speech doesn't sound a certain way. Listen to this episode to discover why that isn't true.
Robin Walker and Gemma Archer are pronunciation specialists who co-authored "Teaching English Pronunciation for a Global World," which aims to encourage pronunciation instruction from a lingua franca and intelligibility perspective.
We chat with Robin & Gemma about:
intelligibility, comprehensibility, and accentedness
why the Lingua Franca Core is what teachers should learn
their disdain for Jennifer Jenkins' criticism of them - before realizing she was right
how intelligibility is the thing that allows pronunciation to do its job
weak forms and why they're not necessary for intelligibility
why the goal of international intelligibility doesn't exclude other goals
how to measure intelligibility & use Linca Franca Core diagnostics with your students
TBLT isn't a fad & this is why NOT using it is holding you back - Lara Bryfonski
Lara Bryfonski is an applied linguist and assistant professor of linguistics at Georgetown University. She recently co-authored the book The Art and Science of Language Teaching with Alison Mackey.
In this episode, Lara dives into:
if "TBLT" is a fad
the myth that novice teachers can't handle TBLT
why experienced teachers are often the most resistant to try it
using a TBL approach within a strict syllabus
where grammar instruction fits into a TBL approach
what a task is and isn't
navigating a learner's internal syllabus
task design and how to apply it in your courses tomorrow
Twitch, gaming, and asynchronous TBLT
her advice for aspiring TBLT practitioners
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Teaching Talking Time is an English Language podcast aimed at teaching professionals and learners. Leo, Mike, and Andrew bring you discussions, interviews, and debates on English language training and learning. From approaches, misconceptions, and successful and failed case studies, each episode is dedicated to their vision: continual growth. They interview teachers and learners from around the world, and also debate the merits of common teaching approaches.
We release two episodes a month: one for teachers and one for students.